Monday, October 18, 2004

A conversation with a LIberal.

Below is the complete conversation I had with a liberal. Most liberal will not talk.. Most of them avoid the truth at all cost they like there little world of hate.

I had talked to her before in a chat room and she sent me a couple comments which made no sence. I added her to my buddy list and below is our actual conversation.. It is very boering.

candyprincess1515 : hello
Mike: How are you?
candyprincess1515 : im doing fine and yourself?
Mike: I am ok.
candyprincess1515 : thats good
Mike: so can we talk like humans?
candyprincess1515 : um yeah y not
Mike: I would just really like to know your views and try to illustrate my points
Mike: in a polite cival manner
candyprincess1515 : okay...about politics?
Mike: sure if you would like.
candyprincess1515 : ok
Mike: First of all who am I talking to.. r u a student? working? neither?
Mike: I assum you are female
Mike: from the princess... but I guess that is an ssumption.
candyprincess1515 : haha student female
Mike:
Mike: college high school?
candyprincess1515 : college
Mike: state?
candyprincess1515 : T X
Mike: really.
Mike: interesting
candyprincess1515 : u?
Mike: can you tell me why you want to vote for kerry.
Mike: 27 m ga not working not going to school.
candyprincess1515 : did u get that article that i sent to u?
Mike: no I don't think so
Mike: did you send a link or soemthing?
candyprincess1515 : i just copied and pasted
candyprincess1515 : Mr. President, your management or mismanagement of this war, your diversion from al-Qaida and from Osama bin Laden, your shift of the troops to Iraq when there was nothing to do with al-Qaida, nothing to do with 9/11, has made America less safe, not more secure,” Kerry said.

The Democrat’s campaign also rolled out a TV ad showing Bush saying “I truly am not that concerned about him” — a reference to Osama bin Laden. The ad seeks to make the case that “It’s time for a new direction” on Iraq and the war on terror. Bush denied in the final debate that he had ever said he wasn’t worried about Osama.

As for U.S. forces, Kerry referred to a report in The Washington Post that the U.S. commander in Iraq, Army Lt. Gen. Ricardo S. Sanchez, said last winter that his supply situation was so poor
candyprincess1515 : that. read it
Mike:
Mike: can I talk?
candyprincess1515 : yes
Mike: do you know they surveyed troops in Iraq and 4-1 they support bush over kerry...
candyprincess1515 : i think thats false
Mike: it is ok
Mike: I got it on CNN
Mike: head line news
Mike: you can look it up later if you want.
Mike: can I ask you another question?
candyprincess1515 : i dont believe in those polls. yes u can ask me a question
Mike: did japan attack us in pearl harbor?
candyprincess1515 : yes
Mike: did germany?
candyprincess1515 : no
Mike: ?
Mike: are you sure?
candyprincess1515 : pretty sure
Mike: huh
Mike: did sadam attack our troops after the first gulf war?
candyprincess1515 : i dont remember...
Mike: he did, he attack barracks in Kuwait.
Mike: do you know what operation "Desert Fox" was?
candyprincess1515 : no..but where are u trying to go with this?
Mike: do you know what SCR 1284 was?
candyprincess1515 : i sure dont
Mike: did germany attack the us?
Mike: during ww2?
candyprincess1515 : not here in the US
Mike: huh?
Mike: r u sure?
Mike: Ever see band of brothers?
candyprincess1515 : no...WW2 was because of hitler correct
Mike: for the most part yes.
Mike: hitler and the Nazi regimn
candyprincess1515 : ah ok
Mike: Also japan and italy
candyprincess1515 : mostly cause of Japan...Japan was eager to get the US in on the war right?
Mike: it is complicated
Mike: but basically no.
Mike: Japan wanted the US never to enter the war
Mike: that is why they attacked pearl harbor to take out our pacific fleet
candyprincess1515 : thats not what my professor told me though...
Mike: so we would only be able to defend
Mike: by taking out a huge part of the pacific fleet we would never be able to attack and only defend the home land.
Mike: Can I tell you something.
Mike: Most professors are wrong.
Mike: but you don't have to believe me
Mike: it is ok.
candyprincess1515 : thats true..
Mike: You know 406,000 men were kill in ww2?
candyprincess1515 : dont know the exact # but yes many were killed
Mike: do you know what the league of nations was?
candyprincess1515 : like th UN
candyprincess1515 : the*
Mike: The league of nation was created after ww1 to prevent future wars.
candyprincess1515 : right
candyprincess1515 : like todays UN
Mike: do you know after ww1 germany signed the treaty of versi... Germany was not allowed to have an army.
Mike: The league of nation was to over see germany never got an army again.
Mike: in addition to other things.
candyprincess1515 : oh i didnt know
Mike: Did germany get an army.
Mike: ever hear about the "treaty of versi"
candyprincess1515 : no
Mike: really?
Mike: huh
Mike: you might want to look into ww1 sometiem.
candyprincess1515 : i wasnt thought well lol
candyprincess1515 : taught*
Mike: I understand you know only 116,000 men died in ww1?
Mike: You know ww1 was started by one man getting shot...
candyprincess1515 : yeah but i cant remember his name
candyprincess1515 : do u know?
Mike: yup
Mike: Archduke Francis Ferdinand of Austria
Mike: you know who killed him?
Mike: a Serbian Student...
candyprincess1515 : oh yeah Ferdinand
Mike: 1 student killed 116,000 americans and who knows how many europeans.
Mike: Let that sink if you want.
candyprincess1515 : oo
Mike: so they formed the league of nations
Mike: to prevent future wars
Mike: to make sure germany never got an army
Mike: What started ww2?
Mike: A guy name hitler was elected.
candyprincess1515 : yep
Mike: he convinced the nation it was better.
Mike: that it deserved better.
Mike: he pulled the nation out of economic disaster
Mike: build up a huge military
Mike: Then invaded poland.
candyprincess1515 : yeah
candyprincess1515 : i wanna know...
candyprincess1515 : are u FOR bush?
candyprincess1515 : and the war?
candyprincess1515 : on iraq
Mike: am I for the war?
Mike: no
Mike: first of all I hate all wars
Mike: second we are not at war we are occuping... reemember after ww2 we occupied germany for 7 years ...
Mike: can I ask you something else?
Mike: how did the league of nations allow germany to get an army?
candyprincess1515 : i dunno
Mike: the Treaty of Versi forbid it.
Mike: you know the soviets lost 25 million men during ww2?
candyprincess1515 : wow
Mike: YOu know hitler signed the Nazi-Soviet Pact,
Mike: hitler made an agreement with russia never to attack.
Mike: funny huh?
Mike: you know ww2 lasted 6 years?
Mike: and 1 day?
candyprincess1515 : weird
Mike: you know 11 million chinese died?
Mike: 7 million germans died
candyprincess1515 : nope
Mike: almost 7 million polish ?
Mike: france lost 800k
Mike: yugoslavia lost 1.7 million.
Mike: great brittan lost 388 k.
Mike: and some estimates show us losses almost 500k...
Mike: but the us accepted number is 406k
Mike: YOu hate bush
Mike: you hate republicans
candyprincess1515 : ooo how do u know all this? lol
Mike: i know
candyprincess1515 : i dont hate them
Mike: you don't think bush got elected
Mike: you think that he "stole" the eletion
candyprincess1515 : i go for the best one thats all
Mike: and that the supreme cort mad a mistake.
Mike: Can I ask you how many people starved in Iraq?
Mike: starved during sanctions?
candyprincess1515 : well the election yeah that was a fraud...they are still starving
Mike: hold on a second you think the 2000 elections were a fraud right?
Mike: you think the supreme court made a mistake
Mike: you think florida was rigged.
Mike: you think the nation was robbed
Mike: and you hated bush the moment he took office
Mike: no mater what he did you were going to hate him.
Mike: but it is ok
Mike: you watch the news.
candyprincess1515 : i dont hate republicans...
candyprincess1515 : i didnt hate him when he took office
candyprincess1515 : i hated him when he attacked someone that didnt have anything to do with 911
Mike: well tath is good
Mike: can I tell you that the supreme court did not steel the election
Mike: and that florida did vote for bush
Mike: and you have been lied to..
Mike: but that is ok.
Mike: can we talk about the sanctions
Mike: and inspections
Mike: you think the sanctions were better then war right?
candyprincess1515 : o-kay what are sanctions
Mike: sactions are economic restrictions
Mike: the restrictions we had on Iraq
Mike: were started with scr 661
Mike: and re affirmed in scr 687
candyprincess1515 : k
Mike: in scr 687 they said that sanctions would be reviewed every 60 days... and if sadam complied with the SCR 687 they would be lifted.
Mike: for 13 years sanctions were in place.
Mike: basically at first no trading could be done.
Mike: in actuality
Mike: in the beggining
Mike: humanitarian aid was sent to Iraq.
Mike: not sold or traded
Mike: just sent to IRaq
Mike: to feed the starving and ill..
Mike: Hey do you know how easy it would of been if the US joined ww2 earlier and stopped Hitler before he invaded france and the rest of europe.
Mike: do you know what d-day was
Mike: it was a day we dropped millions of men on france
candyprincess1515 : dooms day
Mike: and drove them on beaches
Mike: because we had to get troops onto the main land
candyprincess1515 : true
Mike: band of brothers actualy covered d-day
Mike: you might want to watch it.
Mike: it is far harder to attack then defend
Mike: it would of been easy if europe got together and defened it from hitler.
Mike: instead hitler marched though europe
Mike: he made deals with italy and russia
Mike: he was pretty secure
candyprincess1515 : yeah
Mike: even though he eventually invaded russia and killed 25 million people.
Mike: 25 million people... incase you are wonderin is a lot of men...
Mike: oh that is right
Mike: did I mention
Mike: men were killed women didn't fight.
Mike: it is ok though
Mike: 25 million forced to fight and die for the mother land
Mike: you know what happened if troops turned and ran from the enemy?
Mike: they were shot by there own troops
candyprincess1515 : oo
Mike: if a soldier didn't attack theyw ere shot by there officers.
Mike: anyways
Mike: back to what we were talking about
Mike: sanctions.
Mike: http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/sanction/iraq1/2004/01sanctionsworth.htm
Mike: if youw ant to read
Mike: there are a lot of web pages on it
Mike: but read this line.
Mike: Do U.S. officials really wish to assert their moral authority by claiming that “only” 227,000–350,000 children died rather than 500,000?
Mike: interesting statement huh?
candyprincess1515 : very interesting
candyprincess1515 : the govt hides so many things
Mike: yah
Mike: but did you read that?
Mike: only 227,000-350,000 children died during sanctions.
Mike: died of starvation.
Mike: you know the revised numbers are much larger.
Mike: they estimate over 1 million Iraqis died during sanctions.
Mike: over 13 years
Mike: they say about 100,000 Iraqies died the year before the invation
Mike: and about 250,000 died while bush was in office.
Mike: btw
Mike: bush rushed to war.
candyprincess1515 : sure did
candyprincess1515 : with no plans
Mike: I mean only 250,000 iraqis died while he was in office.
Mike: shit if we waited
Mike: they would of all been dead
Mike: except the military which sadam fed.
candyprincess1515 : but u see the war was of WMD's not on how he treated his ppl, not if he had ties with alqueda
Mike: ?
Mike: reallied
Mike: really?
Mike: you don't listen to the president much do you.
candyprincess1515 : yes. bush told us that
Mike: you have never seen a speach.
Mike: lets do this.
Mike: shall we.
candyprincess1515 : so what
candyprincess1515 : do*
Mike: can we try somehting.
Mike: but first
Mike: you supported sanctions right?
candyprincess1515 : i dont support anything i dont know about
Mike: I mean 1 million Iraqis is a small price to pay..
candyprincess1515 : or have enough info about
Mike: to keep sadam from getting wmd's right?
Mike: That is my point
Mike: I don't htink you have enough information about the war in Iraq.
Mike: you watch
Mike: cbs, abc, nbc, cnn
candyprincess1515 : he couldnt get the WMD's since 1991
Mike: and belive them.
Mike: do you know what operation desert fox was?
candyprincess1515 : no i do not know
Mike: MISSION: To strike military and security targets in Iraq that contribute to Iraq's ability to produce, store, maintain and deliver weapons of mass destruction
Mike: your information is misleading
Mike: you watch the main stream media..
Mike: it is ok
Mike: you should go on the net and look more
Mike: so do you support operation desert fox?
Mike: MISSION GOALS: To degrade Saddam Hussein's ability to make and to use weapons of mass destruction. To diminish Saddam Hussein's ability to wage war against his neighbors. To demonstrate to Saddam Hussein the consequences of violating international obligations.3
Mike: those mission statements are directly from the government.
Mike: do you think the goverment would lie to justify attack Iraq?
Mike: Hello?
candyprincess1515 : with Bush as pres. yes
Mike: so do you think Operation Desert fox was a mistake?
Mike: mis leading?
Mike: and you supported sanctions right?
Mike: 1 million dead is ok.
candyprincess1515 : i said i dont support anything i dont know about
Mike: ?
Mike: ok
Mike: well
Mike: look
Mike: why are you fight ing me..
Mike: I am just giving you information
Mike: I am not telling you to think differently
candyprincess1515 : im not fighting lol
Mike: if you get information
Mike: and change your mind
Mike: you should feel good that you grew
Mike: that you now understand.
Mike: right?
Mike: I feel better when I am told things I didn't know.
Mike: 1 million dead don't matter.
Mike: Here you believe cnn
Mike: right?
Mike: you can read this if you want.
Mike: http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/meast/9812/16/iraq.strike.03/
candyprincess1515 : hey sry im back...i have to go though! ttyl
Mike:
candyprincess1515 : bye
Mike: ?
candyprincess1515 has signed out. (10/18/2004 5:31 PM)

Mike: You know if you ever want to consider that you are being lied to or ever want to know more information let me know..
Mike:

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